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		<title>By: NGJ Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>NGJ Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ali - Created is simply putting marriage in the biblical context as a reflection of the church</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ali &#8211; Created is simply putting marriage in the biblical context as a reflection of the church</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree absolutely - no literature should be banned for any reason to any adult that wishes to procure it - I DO find it somewhat ironic that proponents of the book find it frightening that &#039;in this day there are some who would willingly submit to having their freedom taken away&#039;, when that is essentially exactly the what the book seems to advocate: The completely and absolute submission of a wife to her husband.

I really don&#039;t see the distinction between allowing someone to &#039;lead&#039; vs. &#039;control&#039;. They both amount to the same thing: Taking over one person&#039;s decision making power.

Personally, having lived in the third world, having seen patriarchy at its most fundamental, at its most ugly, I believe I have seen the impact that such an ideology can have on women, if the men are a little less gentle, a little less kind, a little less &#039;Christian&#039; than they ought to be.

It&#039;s absolutely horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree absolutely &#8211; no literature should be banned for any reason to any adult that wishes to procure it &#8211; I DO find it somewhat ironic that proponents of the book find it frightening that &#8216;in this day there are some who would willingly submit to having their freedom taken away&#8217;, when that is essentially exactly the what the book seems to advocate: The completely and absolute submission of a wife to her husband.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t see the distinction between allowing someone to &#8216;lead&#8217; vs. &#8216;control&#8217;. They both amount to the same thing: Taking over one person&#8217;s decision making power.</p>
<p>Personally, having lived in the third world, having seen patriarchy at its most fundamental, at its most ugly, I believe I have seen the impact that such an ideology can have on women, if the men are a little less gentle, a little less kind, a little less &#8216;Christian&#8217; than they ought to be.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: whisperingsage</title>
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		<dc:creator>whisperingsage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! My husband is a Pastor and he doesn&#039;t ban anything. He will preach on modesty in dress or the TSA naked scanners and groping in the airports and recommend a boycott as we do, but he knows he has no power to force anybody to do anything, it has to be their choice! Anything other than that is Preacher worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! My husband is a Pastor and he doesn&#8217;t ban anything. He will preach on modesty in dress or the TSA naked scanners and groping in the airports and recommend a boycott as we do, but he knows he has no power to force anybody to do anything, it has to be their choice! Anything other than that is Preacher worship.</p>
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		<title>By: Erna Buys</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/beware-book-banned-by-pastor/#comment-2140</link>
		<dc:creator>Erna Buys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, thank you!  I am nou married for 38 years &amp; for the 1st time in my married life I am happy &amp; see a future because Helpmeet taught me how to handle situations that in the past got me frustrated, etc.  My husband is not born again yet, but the way Help M has changed me , he is busy changing like I cannot describe! We have wonderful conversations, there is unity between us, he is starting to generate a good income that never happened before - he is 64 years young. I look forward to the next 40 years with him! I live in South Africa &amp; one of our pastors wives is helping a group of women to work thru Help M.  We have various groups busy with Help M. Even my married daughter is in our group &amp; I thank Father that He let His  ancient paths be made known to so many women.  It is actually so easy to implement it in my everyday life - I have no worries anymore - I made my husband (whether saved or not) the king, priest &amp; prophet of our home &amp; he is starting to become it without me trying to change him!!!!! I honour &amp; worship You Almighty Father.
Bless you Debi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, thank you!  I am nou married for 38 years &#038; for the 1st time in my married life I am happy &#038; see a future because Helpmeet taught me how to handle situations that in the past got me frustrated, etc.  My husband is not born again yet, but the way Help M has changed me , he is busy changing like I cannot describe! We have wonderful conversations, there is unity between us, he is starting to generate a good income that never happened before &#8211; he is 64 years young. I look forward to the next 40 years with him! I live in South Africa &#038; one of our pastors wives is helping a group of women to work thru Help M.  We have various groups busy with Help M. Even my married daughter is in our group &#038; I thank Father that He let His  ancient paths be made known to so many women.  It is actually so easy to implement it in my everyday life &#8211; I have no worries anymore &#8211; I made my husband (whether saved or not) the king, priest &#038; prophet of our home &#038; he is starting to become it without me trying to change him!!!!! I honour &#038; worship You Almighty Father.<br />
Bless you Debi</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/beware-book-banned-by-pastor/#comment-2139</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I haven&#039;t read the book but would like to and can&#039;t believe that pastors are banning the book.  In all honesty, I&#039;d be looking for a new church, one that focuses on the husband leading the household and the wife striving to be a Proverbs 31 woman, and yes, being your husband&#039;s helpmeet!  The ladies in our small church strive to do just that and have a whole Bible study around it.  I hope the ladies with the difficulties have found your answer and peace in the situation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I haven&#8217;t read the book but would like to and can&#8217;t believe that pastors are banning the book.  In all honesty, I&#8217;d be looking for a new church, one that focuses on the husband leading the household and the wife striving to be a Proverbs 31 woman, and yes, being your husband&#8217;s helpmeet!  The ladies in our small church strive to do just that and have a whole Bible study around it.  I hope the ladies with the difficulties have found your answer and peace in the situation!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW I am absolutely speechless that churches would react in this manner to this book. But really I shouldn&#039;t be surprised; it seems these modern churches are run and operated by women who are mislead by spirits the likes of Juanita Bynum and the like. 
Your book is A BLESSING to those that can receive it and understand it. 
I may not yet be strong enough to do everything in the book but that doesn&#039;t mean I think the book is wrong -- it is I that must grow stronger in implementing it&#039;s practices!
That book goes right along with scripture and makes perfect sense for the order of The Most High and His Son. 
Blessings upon you and your husband, Sis. Pearl. Y&#039;all have been given something that the rest of us NEED if we are going to get through being married in the Western World  alive!!!

Your book has certainly made an impression in THIS house. And even if I can&#039;t get my wife-friends to listen to it at all -- I praise Yahweh El Shaddai for MY household being blessed to read your book and receive that which Yahweh had for US!!!

Thank you Thank you and Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW I am absolutely speechless that churches would react in this manner to this book. But really I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised; it seems these modern churches are run and operated by women who are mislead by spirits the likes of Juanita Bynum and the like.<br />
Your book is A BLESSING to those that can receive it and understand it.<br />
I may not yet be strong enough to do everything in the book but that doesn&#8217;t mean I think the book is wrong &#8212; it is I that must grow stronger in implementing it&#8217;s practices!<br />
That book goes right along with scripture and makes perfect sense for the order of The Most High and His Son.<br />
Blessings upon you and your husband, Sis. Pearl. Y&#8217;all have been given something that the rest of us NEED if we are going to get through being married in the Western World  alive!!!</p>
<p>Your book has certainly made an impression in THIS house. And even if I can&#8217;t get my wife-friends to listen to it at all &#8212; I praise Yahweh El Shaddai for MY household being blessed to read your book and receive that which Yahweh had for US!!!</p>
<p>Thank you Thank you and Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who is in a church or any other organization that does not allow you freedom to read or speak or relate to others at your own discretion needs to leave that. God gave us freedom of choice, a will, and he expects us to use it and allow others the same. It&#039;s called love. It is frightening to me that in this day there are some who would willingly submit to having their freedom taken away.  satan is the author of control. The Helpmeet book is not advocating letting anyone control you unrighteously, it is you CHOOSING to allow the other person to lead-NOT CONTROL-in a relationship that is centered in Christ. You still retain your freedom to do what is necessary should that leadership go against God&#039;s will.
My friend called the book, &quot;The book I love to hate&quot; and we laughed because it IS extrememly difficult to CHOOSE to allow another person to lead when you feel they have lead abusively or non-righteously in the past (when you were weak and vulnerable). But the Lord is drawing a group of us in our area to know we have to submit to turn things around to God&#039;s way. It&#039;s the only workable answer.
Thank you Debi for following God and sharing that walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who is in a church or any other organization that does not allow you freedom to read or speak or relate to others at your own discretion needs to leave that. God gave us freedom of choice, a will, and he expects us to use it and allow others the same. It&#8217;s called love. It is frightening to me that in this day there are some who would willingly submit to having their freedom taken away.  satan is the author of control. The Helpmeet book is not advocating letting anyone control you unrighteously, it is you CHOOSING to allow the other person to lead-NOT CONTROL-in a relationship that is centered in Christ. You still retain your freedom to do what is necessary should that leadership go against God&#8217;s will.<br />
My friend called the book, &#8220;The book I love to hate&#8221; and we laughed because it IS extrememly difficult to CHOOSE to allow another person to lead when you feel they have lead abusively or non-righteously in the past (when you were weak and vulnerable). But the Lord is drawing a group of us in our area to know we have to submit to turn things around to God&#8217;s way. It&#8217;s the only workable answer.<br />
Thank you Debi for following God and sharing that walk.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate to this topic, only I was the 1 the Pastor was forbidding other Mothers to talk to. I had sent out an email to Mothers in a Mom&#039;s group I had joined at the church of a Christian school I had my daughter enrolled at for Kindergarten. I had copied/pasted an article called &quot;Christian Men Who Hate Women&quot;, which described religious masogynists. I did not include any links to where the article came from. The article described my husband exactly word for word. I asked the women to pray specifically for me in regards to that article. The Pastor accused me of giving those women links to &#039;feminist&#039; websites! He told them that he forbids them from contacting me whether it&#039;s thru email, phone, snail mail, in person, &amp; that they&#039;re to forward all emails I send them to him, so that he can deal w/me on his own. I met w/him in his office, w/his wife &amp; they were very cold &amp; aloof towards me. They then gave me #&#039;s for non-Christian organizations to call, &amp; recommended I go to a domestic violence shelter, as there&#039;s nothing they&#039;re able to do for me. He then told me that he forbids me from contacting those women, I&#039;m not allowed to call them, nor email them, nor speak to them face to face &amp; that he&#039;s informed them of the same. I told him that he&#039;s not my father, he&#039;s a pastor &amp; that I have a Father, my Heavenly Father, &amp; I&#039;m to be obedient to Him &amp; His Word, &amp; that he, as my Pastor, has no right telling me who I, or anyone else for that matter, can speak to. After that, I was treated as if I had the black plague. Even my children, who were then 5 &amp; 2yrs old, were mistreated by the Pastor&#039;s daughter, who forbid her daughter from speaking to mine. &amp; the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back happened at a Sunday lunch fellowship outside, when I needed help getting my children&#039;s food, not 1 person helped us, when I asked them. &amp; then when the Pastor &amp; his wife were going around to each table, speaking to their guests, they totally ignored me &amp; my children. That was the last time I ever went back to their Sunday services. &amp; when my daughter graduated from Kindergarten, I removed her from that school, which overcharged us, but allowed children from Kenya to attend thru a scholarship program, which wasn&#039;t available to my children. I had had it w/church after that, &amp; didn&#039;t attend for a whole year, but I had studied at home, by the guidance of the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit). I now go to a Messianic Fellowship &amp; prayerfully believe that this is where I&#039;m to stay until Yeshua haMashiach comes back! I have such a deep hunger for  the meat of the Word, &amp; am filled w/the joy of Adonai! I&#039;m also very thankful to haShem &amp; blessed that HE led me to your site, as my questions are being answer thru your site! Baruch haShem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate to this topic, only I was the 1 the Pastor was forbidding other Mothers to talk to. I had sent out an email to Mothers in a Mom&#8217;s group I had joined at the church of a Christian school I had my daughter enrolled at for Kindergarten. I had copied/pasted an article called &#8220;Christian Men Who Hate Women&#8221;, which described religious masogynists. I did not include any links to where the article came from. The article described my husband exactly word for word. I asked the women to pray specifically for me in regards to that article. The Pastor accused me of giving those women links to &#8216;feminist&#8217; websites! He told them that he forbids them from contacting me whether it&#8217;s thru email, phone, snail mail, in person, &#038; that they&#8217;re to forward all emails I send them to him, so that he can deal w/me on his own. I met w/him in his office, w/his wife &#038; they were very cold &#038; aloof towards me. They then gave me #&#8217;s for non-Christian organizations to call, &#038; recommended I go to a domestic violence shelter, as there&#8217;s nothing they&#8217;re able to do for me. He then told me that he forbids me from contacting those women, I&#8217;m not allowed to call them, nor email them, nor speak to them face to face &#038; that he&#8217;s informed them of the same. I told him that he&#8217;s not my father, he&#8217;s a pastor &#038; that I have a Father, my Heavenly Father, &#038; I&#8217;m to be obedient to Him &#038; His Word, &#038; that he, as my Pastor, has no right telling me who I, or anyone else for that matter, can speak to. After that, I was treated as if I had the black plague. Even my children, who were then 5 &#038; 2yrs old, were mistreated by the Pastor&#8217;s daughter, who forbid her daughter from speaking to mine. &#038; the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back happened at a Sunday lunch fellowship outside, when I needed help getting my children&#8217;s food, not 1 person helped us, when I asked them. &#038; then when the Pastor &#038; his wife were going around to each table, speaking to their guests, they totally ignored me &#038; my children. That was the last time I ever went back to their Sunday services. &#038; when my daughter graduated from Kindergarten, I removed her from that school, which overcharged us, but allowed children from Kenya to attend thru a scholarship program, which wasn&#8217;t available to my children. I had had it w/church after that, &#038; didn&#8217;t attend for a whole year, but I had studied at home, by the guidance of the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit). I now go to a Messianic Fellowship &#038; prayerfully believe that this is where I&#8217;m to stay until Yeshua haMashiach comes back! I have such a deep hunger for  the meat of the Word, &#038; am filled w/the joy of Adonai! I&#8217;m also very thankful to haShem &#038; blessed that HE led me to your site, as my questions are being answer thru your site! Baruch haShem!</p>
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		<title>By: Bev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my goodness, I can relate to the happy wife in Texas.  In my case, I wasn&#039;t reading the &quot;Created&quot; book, but another one that revealed Scriptures differently than we hear at church.  Our pastor said the exact same thing, word for word. Interesting that the Scriptures themselves are divisive, yet we don&#039;t throw them out.  Or are they next?  
We are at home now, with my husband leading us, so we can keep the 7th day Sabbath (the 4th commandment).  We need to obey God, not man.

Bev W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my goodness, I can relate to the happy wife in Texas.  In my case, I wasn&#8217;t reading the &#8220;Created&#8221; book, but another one that revealed Scriptures differently than we hear at church.  Our pastor said the exact same thing, word for word. Interesting that the Scriptures themselves are divisive, yet we don&#8217;t throw them out.  Or are they next?<br />
We are at home now, with my husband leading us, so we can keep the 7th day Sabbath (the 4th commandment).  We need to obey God, not man.</p>
<p>Bev W.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am stunned to read such things. I have often found it strange for a church to ban a book, as I have a brother who cannot read a long list of helpful books.  I will be in prayer over this issue and for all involved.  May God bless the mouths of those who address this issue in any way.  May God shut the mouth of Satan as well.
My mother and I have been taking about how to empower our spouse through confidence in his abilities.  We have noticed how our society immasculates men on a regular basis, especially in the mainstream media.  So many media men are unintelligent, incapable and not at all good examples, while the women take charge and are smart, level-headed and well equipped to do the job at hand.  It is sad to see men being cut down in the roles they were designed for.
May God bless you all.
Maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am stunned to read such things. I have often found it strange for a church to ban a book, as I have a brother who cannot read a long list of helpful books.  I will be in prayer over this issue and for all involved.  May God bless the mouths of those who address this issue in any way.  May God shut the mouth of Satan as well.<br />
My mother and I have been taking about how to empower our spouse through confidence in his abilities.  We have noticed how our society immasculates men on a regular basis, especially in the mainstream media.  So many media men are unintelligent, incapable and not at all good examples, while the women take charge and are smart, level-headed and well equipped to do the job at hand.  It is sad to see men being cut down in the roles they were designed for.<br />
May God bless you all.<br />
Maggie</p>
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