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		<title>By: Roxanne Johnsey</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxanne Johnsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to thank the Lord Jesus Christ for you and all of you at Cane Creek.  I would have loved to have the opportunity to raise all of my children where you all are.  God is still good even though, I do not  have the support system that you do, but He is still guiding.  I am wondering if the media and the ones that are trying to rip your books apart are reading and comprehending your books..  If my memory serves me correctly, there is one place in the child training books, that you say.. IF you are a Parent that has anger problems, then there might be another option for child training, I think you even warn some of us that are from broken and rough homes, that if anger is a problem and that if we spank our child too hard, to find some other form of dicipline, and not only that, for us to get counselling or encouragement in dealing with those issues.. I am thinking that even Debbie, states, in her help meet book, also, the consequences of a ladies anger..  anyways, God bless you, and I am praying that the ones that are attacking you and this wonderful work actually read what you write, and comprehend.  If us old hill billy women can comprehend what you are writing, surely these high educated, high minded men and women of success can comprehend your teachings, or should I also say, our biblical teachings.. Either way, God knows the truth in what you and your family are doing.. There are some of us out there, that live and know the truth, and the joy that comes from it ALL...  Thank you and a hand up the Father the maker and the finisher of our FAITH....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to thank the Lord Jesus Christ for you and all of you at Cane Creek.  I would have loved to have the opportunity to raise all of my children where you all are.  God is still good even though, I do not  have the support system that you do, but He is still guiding.  I am wondering if the media and the ones that are trying to rip your books apart are reading and comprehending your books..  If my memory serves me correctly, there is one place in the child training books, that you say.. IF you are a Parent that has anger problems, then there might be another option for child training, I think you even warn some of us that are from broken and rough homes, that if anger is a problem and that if we spank our child too hard, to find some other form of dicipline, and not only that, for us to get counselling or encouragement in dealing with those issues.. I am thinking that even Debbie, states, in her help meet book, also, the consequences of a ladies anger..  anyways, God bless you, and I am praying that the ones that are attacking you and this wonderful work actually read what you write, and comprehend.  If us old hill billy women can comprehend what you are writing, surely these high educated, high minded men and women of success can comprehend your teachings, or should I also say, our biblical teachings.. Either way, God knows the truth in what you and your family are doing.. There are some of us out there, that live and know the truth, and the joy that comes from it ALL&#8230;  Thank you and a hand up the Father the maker and the finisher of our FAITH&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-10149</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for all you went through, my children&#039;s generation is at stake.  I love your Biblical  material, it has given me a deep passion to be the best parent with the Lord&#039;s help.  I am amazed at the sweet relationship I have with my children, thank you from my husband&#039;s and my heart.  It is one of the greatest gifts, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for all you went through, my children&#8217;s generation is at stake.  I love your Biblical  material, it has given me a deep passion to be the best parent with the Lord&#8217;s help.  I am amazed at the sweet relationship I have with my children, thank you from my husband&#8217;s and my heart.  It is one of the greatest gifts, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen G</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-7502</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 16:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why everyone always hyper focuses on the spanking/training swats end of the Pearls materials when much of it is interacting, training by example and building up a good relationship with your child? Just because some evil person claimed the book cause thier abuse does not make it so. They were already abusive and evil to start with. Bad people always shift blame off of themselves and onto someone or something else. Claiming a child training book told them to abuse is lame. That everyong else is foolish enough to believe the abusive person&#039;s lie is astounding. Well maybe not so much considering the average American is a sheep that can only think what the media tells them to.
Child training is a whole package. The Pearls teach it as a whole package. Only those who fragment the teaching run the risk of becoming unbalanced and potentially harmful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why everyone always hyper focuses on the spanking/training swats end of the Pearls materials when much of it is interacting, training by example and building up a good relationship with your child? Just because some evil person claimed the book cause thier abuse does not make it so. They were already abusive and evil to start with. Bad people always shift blame off of themselves and onto someone or something else. Claiming a child training book told them to abuse is lame. That everyong else is foolish enough to believe the abusive person&#8217;s lie is astounding. Well maybe not so much considering the average American is a sheep that can only think what the media tells them to.<br />
Child training is a whole package. The Pearls teach it as a whole package. Only those who fragment the teaching run the risk of becoming unbalanced and potentially harmful.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-6439</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading this as of February 2012.  If as many people as you yourself state are familiar with you and your philosophy, I don&#039;t believe for a second that only sixty-four comments to this article were posted in over two years, even after the deaths of at least two children were connected to families who attested to follow your book in a disturbingly dedicated fashion.  You are moderating comments (understood and expected) and only leaving those up which illustrate your purpose in some way (deceitful and sneaky).  You will probably leave mine up in an attempt to &quot;disprove&quot; to further readers that this is what you are doing.  Good job.  This must make it so easy to convince yourselves and your &quot;followers&quot; that you are right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading this as of February 2012.  If as many people as you yourself state are familiar with you and your philosophy, I don&#8217;t believe for a second that only sixty-four comments to this article were posted in over two years, even after the deaths of at least two children were connected to families who attested to follow your book in a disturbingly dedicated fashion.  You are moderating comments (understood and expected) and only leaving those up which illustrate your purpose in some way (deceitful and sneaky).  You will probably leave mine up in an attempt to &#8220;disprove&#8221; to further readers that this is what you are doing.  Good job.  This must make it so easy to convince yourselves and your &#8220;followers&#8221; that you are right.</p>
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		<title>By: Dim</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-6008</link>
		<dc:creator>Dim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very McCarthy like indeed.  Let&#039;s hunt down all the reds, eh?  I only say that because you really seem to have it in for the socialists, so much that you even claim that Russia, China, and North Korea were among the first to ban corporate punishment for children...  The problem is that NONE of those countries have done that ever, as a matter of fact it is often condoned.  On a separate note I&#039;d like to know what &#039;genetic discoveries and contrary evidence&#039; you&#039;re referring to that have debunked the idea of organic evolution.  Your article contains generic accusations and statements that are not supported by any facts but the ones you have invented yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very McCarthy like indeed.  Let&#8217;s hunt down all the reds, eh?  I only say that because you really seem to have it in for the socialists, so much that you even claim that Russia, China, and North Korea were among the first to ban corporate punishment for children&#8230;  The problem is that NONE of those countries have done that ever, as a matter of fact it is often condoned.  On a separate note I&#8217;d like to know what &#8216;genetic discoveries and contrary evidence&#8217; you&#8217;re referring to that have debunked the idea of organic evolution.  Your article contains generic accusations and statements that are not supported by any facts but the ones you have invented yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: NGJ Staff</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-2904</link>
		<dc:creator>NGJ Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Julia - Promotion of animal rights would only be </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Julia &#8211; Promotion of animal rights would only be</p>
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		<title>By: NGJ Staff</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-2903</link>
		<dc:creator>NGJ Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Susie - We are leaving your comments up on this article as an example of all those making comments who are ignorant of (or purposely ignoring) the traditional child training philosophy presented by NGJ. They and you simply take 1 or 2 statements and twist them, to the exclusion of the philosophy as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Susie &#8211; We are leaving your comments up on this article as an example of all those making comments who are ignorant of (or purposely ignoring) the traditional child training philosophy presented by NGJ. They and you simply take 1 or 2 statements and twist them, to the exclusion of the philosophy as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-2902</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And on more thing: 
Children are raised, not trained. The word &quot;training&quot; sounds like you&#039;re referring to all of God&#039;s other creatures that you clearly don&#039;t care about. Dogs and circus animals, not children, are trained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on more thing:<br />
Children are raised, not trained. The word &#8220;training&#8221; sounds like you&#8217;re referring to all of God&#8217;s other creatures that you clearly don&#8217;t care about. Dogs and circus animals, not children, are trained.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-2901</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does being a supporter of animal rights have to do with being anti-Christian? There are actually many passages in the Bible that support vegetarianism. 
http://www.all-creatures.org/cva/honoring.htm. God gave man dominion over animals but that doesn&#039;t mean we should abuse them. God has dominion over us, and he blesses us every day. Shouldn&#039;t we do the same? And what&#039;s wrong with trying to prevent global warming? Maybe it&#039;s God&#039;s way of punishing people for being greedy with his resources. Anyone who cares about humanity should try to be slowing global warming-it&#039;s effects will be disastrous on the developing world. Crops will fail, there will be water shortages, and great flooding. Does this sound like something Jesus would want? Second of all, making generalizations about groups of people takes away your legitimacy. The public schools are not a wing of &quot;socialist propaganda&quot;. The public schools offer an opportunity for children to relate to others of different backgrounds. Believe it or not, not everyone in the world is Christian, and children need to see that from a young age. I&#039;m a devout Christian, and my two best friends from public school are Muslims. Has that made me a weaker Christian? No, it&#039;s actually strengthened my own beliefs in Jesus and shown me that wonderful people can be found in every faith. Also, Jesus had very socialistic tendencies-rd Acts, Matthew, and the rest of the New Testament. &quot;And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.&quot; I&#039;m not saying America needs to be socialist, but if Jesus showed socialistic tendencies, is what you&#039;re saying moral?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does being a supporter of animal rights have to do with being anti-Christian? There are actually many passages in the Bible that support vegetarianism.<br />
<a href="http://www.all-creatures.org/cva/honoring.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.all-creatures.org/cva/honoring.htm</a>. God gave man dominion over animals but that doesn&#8217;t mean we should abuse them. God has dominion over us, and he blesses us every day. Shouldn&#8217;t we do the same? And what&#8217;s wrong with trying to prevent global warming? Maybe it&#8217;s God&#8217;s way of punishing people for being greedy with his resources. Anyone who cares about humanity should try to be slowing global warming-it&#8217;s effects will be disastrous on the developing world. Crops will fail, there will be water shortages, and great flooding. Does this sound like something Jesus would want? Second of all, making generalizations about groups of people takes away your legitimacy. The public schools are not a wing of &#8220;socialist propaganda&#8221;. The public schools offer an opportunity for children to relate to others of different backgrounds. Believe it or not, not everyone in the world is Christian, and children need to see that from a young age. I&#8217;m a devout Christian, and my two best friends from public school are Muslims. Has that made me a weaker Christian? No, it&#8217;s actually strengthened my own beliefs in Jesus and shown me that wonderful people can be found in every faith. Also, Jesus had very socialistic tendencies-rd Acts, Matthew, and the rest of the New Testament. &#8220;And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.&#8221; I&#8217;m not saying America needs to be socialist, but if Jesus showed socialistic tendencies, is what you&#8217;re saying moral?</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/spank-and-save-a-child/#comment-2900</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I respectfully disagree with your advise to spank because I grew up being spanked literally everyday because I acted out.  I wasn&#039;t &quot;taught&quot; to do right but spanked not to do it again.  But what did I do, I did it over and over again.  Because I was punished not disciplined.  And there is a difference.  Punish means to hurt and discipline means to teach or train.  I don&#039;t understand why children have to be spanked to teach them right from wrong.  They need to be taught by discipline and example.  Most parents nowadays are not an example to their children and spank out of anger and rage not because they want to &quot;discipline&quot;.  I think spanking should be illegal in all states.  But even that wouldn&#039;t stop parents from spanking because &quot;that&#039;s how they were raised.&quot;  I think we need to bring up a generation that doesn&#039;t include spanking rather living by an example and taught right from wrong.  I use to nanny a 4 year old and in that household they didn&#039;t believe in spanking.  They had 2 girls at the time that were 8 and 10, I believe.  They were very good little girls and were involved in church, school and just all around good kids.  I have caught up with them and they are still good kids because the parents were an example to them and didn&#039;t spank them.  They did teach them right from wrong and disciplined.  They were nice little girls and not angry like most teenagers even children who get spanked.  I just don&#039;t agree with spanking and don&#039;t see why it should be enforced in homes.  Children are precious gifts from God that should be taken care of not spanked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I respectfully disagree with your advise to spank because I grew up being spanked literally everyday because I acted out.  I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;taught&#8221; to do right but spanked not to do it again.  But what did I do, I did it over and over again.  Because I was punished not disciplined.  And there is a difference.  Punish means to hurt and discipline means to teach or train.  I don&#8217;t understand why children have to be spanked to teach them right from wrong.  They need to be taught by discipline and example.  Most parents nowadays are not an example to their children and spank out of anger and rage not because they want to &#8220;discipline&#8221;.  I think spanking should be illegal in all states.  But even that wouldn&#8217;t stop parents from spanking because &#8220;that&#8217;s how they were raised.&#8221;  I think we need to bring up a generation that doesn&#8217;t include spanking rather living by an example and taught right from wrong.  I use to nanny a 4 year old and in that household they didn&#8217;t believe in spanking.  They had 2 girls at the time that were 8 and 10, I believe.  They were very good little girls and were involved in church, school and just all around good kids.  I have caught up with them and they are still good kids because the parents were an example to them and didn&#8217;t spank them.  They did teach them right from wrong and disciplined.  They were nice little girls and not angry like most teenagers even children who get spanked.  I just don&#8217;t agree with spanking and don&#8217;t see why it should be enforced in homes.  Children are precious gifts from God that should be taken care of not spanked.</p>
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