Comments on: The Balanced Patriarch http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/ Over 500 articles from Michael and Debi Pearl on Child Training, Homeschooling, Family, Marriage, Christianity, the Bible, Missions, Simple Living, Gardening, and other topics! Fri, 18 May 2012 19:40:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kristie http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-5421 Kristie Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:16:34 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-5421 Great article! I just printed it up so I can have it handy to pass on. One "version" of the PDF mentality claims that Genesis 2:24 teaches that the only acceptable reason to leave home--at ANY age, either gender--is for marriage!! (Not sure what kind of military we'd have if everyone believed that . . .) They also are quoting Gen. 1:18 as a proof-text that since "it is not good that the man should be alone," therefore no guy can ever live away from his parents before he marries. It's breath-taking how quickly people can twist Scripture out of context when they approach the Bible with their minds already made up! Great article! I just printed it up so I can have it handy to pass on. One “version” of the PDF mentality claims that Genesis 2:24 teaches that the only acceptable reason to leave home–at ANY age, either gender–is for marriage!! (Not sure what kind of military we’d have if everyone believed that . . .) They also are quoting Gen. 1:18 as a proof-text that since “it is not good that the man should be alone,” therefore no guy can ever live away from his parents before he marries. It’s breath-taking how quickly people can twist Scripture out of context when they approach the Bible with their minds already made up!

]]> By: Jennifer http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-5342 Jennifer Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:33:29 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-5342 SO beautiful, what an article! Well done, Mr. Pearl! The Vision Forum, while it has great products and SOME great teachers, is a dangerous theological group, believe me. They believe that women must always be kept out of the workplace, even single ones, and always under a male authority at some point in their lives. An excellent example is Geoffrey Botkin's daughters, who call their father their "prophet, priest and king" and declares that autonomy is "toddler stuff." Very harmful and unhealthy practices and beliefs. SO beautiful, what an article! Well done, Mr. Pearl!

The Vision Forum, while it has great products and SOME great teachers, is a dangerous theological group, believe me. They believe that women must always be kept out of the workplace, even single ones, and always under a male authority at some point in their lives. An excellent example is Geoffrey Botkin’s daughters, who call their father their “prophet, priest and king” and declares that autonomy is “toddler stuff.” Very harmful and unhealthy practices and beliefs.

]]> By: Elisabeth Wood http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2387 Elisabeth Wood Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:51:11 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2387 I would just like to say that the points made in this article also hold true for single mothers of adult children who have seperated from patriarchal men. Sometimes these mothers cling to their children to the point of sickness when the children should be given their wings to fly. If a parent has done a good job raising their child, then the expectation should be that the children will know right from wrong and be able to survive on their own. I was on my own at 18 having been put out of my home by an abusive "preacher" father who was a dysfunctial patriarch. I had no job, no highschool diploma, and no driver's license. But, I made it just fine. I had very strong convictions about right and wrong that kept me out of a lot of trouble for a long time. However, I fell into the sin of fornication around the age of 22. While I acknowledge my sin and I did repent and later received Christ as my Savior, I know that if I could've had godly parents that I could've sought advice from without having to worry about being controled by them for their own purposes, I may have made some very different choices. I wouldn't have had to experience every trick that a guy can play on a gullible little "good, clueless" girl. So, I can tell you firsthand that I know the damage that is done by adhereing to this type of dominance. I would just like to say that the points made in this article also hold true for single mothers of adult children who have seperated from patriarchal men. Sometimes these mothers cling to their children to the point of sickness when the children should be given their wings to fly. If a parent has done a good job raising their child, then the expectation should be that the children will know right from wrong and be able to survive on their own. I was on my own at 18 having been put out of my home by an abusive “preacher” father who was a dysfunctial patriarch. I had no job, no highschool diploma, and no driver’s license. But, I made it just fine. I had very strong convictions about right and wrong that kept me out of a lot of trouble for a long time. However, I fell into the sin of fornication around the age of 22. While I acknowledge my sin and I did repent and later received Christ as my Savior, I know that if I could’ve had godly parents that I could’ve sought advice from without having to worry about being controled by them for their own purposes, I may have made some very different choices. I wouldn’t have had to experience every trick that a guy can play on a gullible little “good, clueless” girl. So, I can tell you firsthand that I know the damage that is done by adhereing to this type of dominance.

]]> By: Leo http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2391 Leo Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:34:45 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2391 you are so good at the videol and i hope you make more and i love your video and i hope you make more so i can lisin to it you are so good at the videol and i hope you make more and i love your video and i hope you make more so i can lisin to it

]]> By: leo http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2392 leo Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:04:53 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2392 i love your story Greggs story and and i hope you make more i love your story
Greggs story and
and i hope you make more

]]> By: Jennifer http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2386 Jennifer Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:51:11 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2386 What's your point in that citation, Mrs. Ford? That family patriarchs have the authority to command generations ahead of themselves? I don't think so. What’s your point in that citation, Mrs. Ford? That family patriarchs have the authority to command generations ahead of themselves? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Tyson Rohovich http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2390 Tyson Rohovich Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:12:51 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2390 Greg that was great, that totally reminded me of my current journey. It made me laugh because i did those same things and i can relate so much! God Bless you for taking the time to do this video. It really helps confirm the simplicity of the gospel again. That was just great!!!! I can't believe how exactly the same even to the # of days of fasting and specific times of prayer that Gregs journey was to mine. Blown away!! Greg that was great, that totally reminded me of my current journey. It made me laugh because i did those same things and i can relate so much! God Bless you for taking the time to do this video. It really helps confirm the simplicity of the gospel again. That was just great!!!! I can’t believe how exactly the same even to the # of days of fasting and specific times of prayer that Gregs journey was to mine. Blown away!!

]]> By: Anna http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2389 Anna Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:04:18 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2389 I do believe with the above comment; however Jesus as pictured in John 10 as the Good Shepherd doesn't lead us to green pastures and then take our salvation from us if we turn our back on Him. Salvation is an act of faith ( our part)by God's grace being extended to us. "not of works lest any man should boast" Neither can works keep our salvation but they testify of our relationship with Christ. Read the book of James. I do believe with the above comment; however Jesus as pictured in John 10 as the Good Shepherd doesn’t lead us to green pastures and then take our salvation from us if we turn our back on Him. Salvation is an act of faith ( our part)by God’s grace being extended to us. “not of works lest any man should boast”
Neither can works keep our salvation but they testify of our relationship with Christ. Read the book of James.

]]> By: Margie http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2385 Margie Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:45:09 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2385 Thank you so much for your articles. I love your ministry and your wisdom. This put into words many of the feelings I have had toward the "patriarchal movement" Thank you so much for your articles. I love your ministry and your wisdom. This put into words many of the feelings I have had toward the “patriarchal movement”

]]> By: Reba http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/#comment-2388 Reba Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:51:16 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=2486#comment-2388 Thank you for posting this video. I have recently been blessed in that God is teaching me through some of His servants how simple it is to receive His righteousness and live as a Christian. We must do nothing but trust Him as a little child trusts His Daddy to always love him, provide for him, protect him, and most of all just BE his Daddy, and the child did NOTHING to become his father's child (we only chose to accept His offer of salvation through faith in Him and we know it's by His grace), and nothing he does will make his father stop loving him or being his father. I do believe that a person can turn his back on God, reject Jesus, and therefore lose his salvation, but as long as he wants to be God's child, nothing can take away his relationship with God. This video is just more of what people like me need to hear to help undo the double message about our salvation that we've been taught all our lives and clarify the truth of our relationship with God. Thank you for posting this video. I have recently been blessed in that God is teaching me through some of His servants how simple it is to receive His righteousness and live as a Christian. We must do nothing but trust Him as a little child trusts His Daddy to always love him, provide for him, protect him, and most of all just BE his Daddy, and the child did NOTHING to become his father’s child (we only chose to accept His offer of salvation through faith in Him and we know it’s by His grace), and nothing he does will make his father stop loving him or being his father. I do believe that a person can turn his back on God, reject Jesus, and therefore lose his salvation, but as long as he wants to be God’s child, nothing can take away his relationship with God. This video is just more of what people like me need to hear to help undo the double message about our salvation that we’ve been taught all our lives and clarify the truth of our relationship with God.

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