Comments on: The Goo-Goo Lady http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/ Over 500 articles from Michael and Debi Pearl on Child Training, Homeschooling, Family, Marriage, Christianity, the Bible, Missions, Simple Living, Gardening, and other topics! Fri, 18 May 2012 19:40:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Renee http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-3692 Renee Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:59:56 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-3692 I came over to your website after reading in the news of a seven year old girl who was beaten to death by parents employing the techniques described in TTUAC. I am devastated by what I am reading regarding "training" infants and children. I pray that the Grace of Salvation be made known to parents who believe these teachings and implement the deception of the rod being able to save their child's soul, rather then Christ's finished work on the cross. ILV - I think the word you meant was "physical" not fisical I came over to your website after reading in the news of a seven year old girl who was beaten to death by parents employing the techniques described in TTUAC. I am devastated by what I am reading regarding “training” infants and children. I pray that the Grace of Salvation be made known to parents who believe these teachings and implement the deception of the rod being able to save their child’s soul, rather then Christ’s finished work on the cross.

ILV – I think the word you meant was “physical” not fisical

]]> By: Renee http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-4297 Renee Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:59:56 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-4297 I came over to your website after reading in the news of a seven year old girl who was beaten to death by parents employing the techniques described in TTUAC. I am devastated by what I am reading regarding "training" infants and children. I pray that the Grace of Salvation be made known to parents who believe these teachings and implement the deception of the rod being able to save their child's soul, rather then Christ's finished work on the cross. ILV - I think the word you meant was "physical" not fisical I came over to your website after reading in the news of a seven year old girl who was beaten to death by parents employing the techniques described in TTUAC. I am devastated by what I am reading regarding “training” infants and children. I pray that the Grace of Salvation be made known to parents who believe these teachings and implement the deception of the rod being able to save their child’s soul, rather then Christ’s finished work on the cross.

ILV – I think the word you meant was “physical” not fisical

]]> By: DCG http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-3691 DCG Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:03:27 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-3691 Charity, you NEVER make your 15 month old obey??? What kind of person are you trying to train up, in case you are training him up? Don't you teach him to do anything you tell him to? What do you do when he doesn't? Do you just smile and hope he will grow out of his very sinful nature? That is confusing him on what is good and evil, and by the time you realize what you are doing, you will have a demanding child controlling you, or a boy who will do as he pleases and won't respect authority. That is not biblical either. I would say it is worse, for you are training him into an unchristian worldview regarding responsibility and obedience. Wait for his "terrible twos", and then write back and let us all see what happened... Charity, you NEVER make your 15 month old obey???

What kind of person are you trying to train up, in case you are training him up?

Don’t you teach him to do anything you tell him to? What do you do when he doesn’t? Do you just smile and hope he will grow out of his very sinful nature?

That is confusing him on what is good and evil, and by the time you realize what you are doing, you will have a demanding child controlling you, or a boy who will do as he pleases and won’t respect authority.

That is not biblical either. I would say it is worse, for you are training him into an unchristian worldview regarding responsibility and obedience.

Wait for his “terrible twos”, and then write back and let us all see what happened…

]]> By: DCG http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-4296 DCG Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:03:27 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-4296 Charity, you NEVER make your 15 month old obey??? What kind of person are you trying to train up, in case you are training him up? Don't you teach him to do anything you tell him to? What do you do when he doesn't? Do you just smile and hope he will grow out of his very sinful nature? That is confusing him on what is good and evil, and by the time you realize what you are doing, you will have a demanding child controlling you, or a boy who will do as he pleases and won't respect authority. That is not biblical either. I would say it is worse, for you are training him into an unchristian worldview regarding responsibility and obedience. Wait for his "terrible twos", and then write back and let us all see what happened... Charity, you NEVER make your 15 month old obey???

What kind of person are you trying to train up, in case you are training him up?

Don’t you teach him to do anything you tell him to? What do you do when he doesn’t? Do you just smile and hope he will grow out of his very sinful nature?

That is confusing him on what is good and evil, and by the time you realize what you are doing, you will have a demanding child controlling you, or a boy who will do as he pleases and won’t respect authority.

That is not biblical either. I would say it is worse, for you are training him into an unchristian worldview regarding responsibility and obedience.

Wait for his “terrible twos”, and then write back and let us all see what happened…

]]> By: Ivett http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-3690 Ivett Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:53:58 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-3690 I have a 2 year old girl. I agree that a belt might not be the best instrument for chastising a baby... though it also depends on the belt and how you use it. I would rather use a thin and flexible rod. But children definitely need training, that is sure. However, what I love from this article is the kind of control it shows. Evidently, the father is not squashing the girl below a too-heavy load of aggressive control or nagging, not in this case or on a normal basis. Would he, this scene would have been different. She would have obeyed but she might have been emotionally overwhelmed and most probably not able to smile as required, at her age. We see here a secure, loved girl who is confident and happy. She is being trained, not abused. However, she is trying her limits, as it is normal to her very nature, and her father is seeing that the boundaries are firm. When asking her to smile, this father shows he does not just care about external obedience. He is training up her soul into obeying with a sweet heart. She will thank him forever as soon as she grows big enough to understand the treasures he is giving her, self-control among them. I have a 2 year old girl. I agree that a belt might not be the best instrument for chastising a baby… though it also depends on the belt and how you use it. I would rather use a thin and flexible rod. But children definitely need training, that is sure.

However, what I love from this article is the kind of control it shows. Evidently, the father is not squashing the girl below a too-heavy load of aggressive control or nagging, not in this case or on a normal basis. Would he, this scene would have been different. She would have obeyed but she might have been emotionally overwhelmed and most probably not able to smile as required, at her age. We see here a secure, loved girl who is confident and happy. She is being trained, not abused. However, she is trying her limits, as it is normal to her very nature, and her father is seeing that the boundaries are firm. When asking her to smile, this father shows he does not just care about external obedience. He is training up her soul into obeying with a sweet heart. She will thank him forever as soon as she grows big enough to understand the treasures he is giving her, self-control among them.

]]> By: Ivett http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-4295 Ivett Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:53:58 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-4295 I have a 2 year old girl. I agree that a belt might not be the best instrument for chastising a baby... though it also depends on the belt and how you use it. I would rather use a thin and flexible rod. But children definitely need training, that is sure. However, what I love from this article is the kind of control it shows. Evidently, the father is not squashing the girl below a too-heavy load of aggressive control or nagging, not in this case or on a normal basis. Would he, this scene would have been different. She would have obeyed but she might have been emotionally overwhelmed and most probably not able to smile as required, at her age. We see here a secure, loved girl who is confident and happy. She is being trained, not abused. However, she is trying her limits, as it is normal to her very nature, and her father is seeing that the boundaries are firm. When asking her to smile, this father shows he does not just care about external obedience. He is training up her soul into obeying with a sweet heart. She will thank him forever as soon as she grows big enough to understand the treasures he is giving her, self-control among them. I have a 2 year old girl. I agree that a belt might not be the best instrument for chastising a baby… though it also depends on the belt and how you use it. I would rather use a thin and flexible rod. But children definitely need training, that is sure.

However, what I love from this article is the kind of control it shows. Evidently, the father is not squashing the girl below a too-heavy load of aggressive control or nagging, not in this case or on a normal basis. Would he, this scene would have been different. She would have obeyed but she might have been emotionally overwhelmed and most probably not able to smile as required, at her age. We see here a secure, loved girl who is confident and happy. She is being trained, not abused. However, she is trying her limits, as it is normal to her very nature, and her father is seeing that the boundaries are firm. When asking her to smile, this father shows he does not just care about external obedience. He is training up her soul into obeying with a sweet heart. She will thank him forever as soon as she grows big enough to understand the treasures he is giving her, self-control among them.

]]> By: ILV http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-3689 ILV Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:38:10 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-3689 Actually, I would guess that little child knows more of the belt by having older children than by actually being chastisened with it! Actually, I would guess that little child knows more of the belt by having older children than by actually being chastisened with it!

]]> By: ILV http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-4294 ILV Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:38:10 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-4294 Actually, I would guess that little child knows more of the belt by having older children than by actually being chastisened with it! Actually, I would guess that little child knows more of the belt by having older children than by actually being chastisened with it!

]]> By: ILV http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-3688 ILV Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:35:48 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-3688 Excuse me??? Is fisical chastisement what you are calling child abuse? While it is true a rod might serve much better for such a small child, I think you understand it quite wrong. You should go to the street and see real child abuse. You should see yourself in, let's say the "terrible twos" of your sweetheart and let's see what you call then "child abuse". Child abuse is allowing a child to do as he pleases until your nerves are so grated that you may even lose control and then, let's say you don't spank them. Then what you do is to continually nag their joy away, or to forcefully push them on a chair for a "time off", or who knows what. Child abuse is to bring up a child while allowing his soul to grow untrained, selfish and horrible, and then reject the monster you created by saying when they are incorregible teens that "you did what you could, now it's God's turn". If we want God to control our life, we must do things God's way. Please, prevent yourself from being offended when you read your Bible by gently removing all verses about the rod. I don't think that you must CONTROL children in an offensive way, but in a loving, happy general environment there are moments when control must be exerted. This one, from my perspective was just one of those moments, not the daily behavior of a father. Excuse me??? Is fisical chastisement what you are calling child abuse? While it is true a rod might serve much better for such a small child, I think you understand it quite wrong. You should go to the street and see real child abuse. You should see yourself in, let’s say the “terrible twos” of your sweetheart and let’s see what you call then “child abuse”.
Child abuse is allowing a child to do as he pleases until your nerves are so grated that you may even lose control and then, let’s say you don’t spank them. Then what you do is to continually nag their joy away, or to forcefully push them on a chair for a “time off”, or who knows what.
Child abuse is to bring up a child while allowing his soul to grow untrained, selfish and horrible, and then reject the monster you created by saying when they are incorregible teens that “you did what you could, now it’s God’s turn”.
If we want God to control our life, we must do things God’s way.

Please, prevent yourself from being offended when you read your Bible by gently removing all verses about the rod.

I don’t think that you must CONTROL children in an offensive way, but in a loving, happy general environment there are moments when control must be exerted. This one, from my perspective was just one of those moments, not the daily behavior of a father.

]]> By: ILV http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-goo-goo-lady/#comment-4293 ILV Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:35:48 +0000 http://new.nogreaterjoy.org/?p=3606#comment-4293 Excuse me??? Is fisical chastisement what you are calling child abuse? While it is true a rod might serve much better for such a small child, I think you understand it quite wrong. You should go to the street and see real child abuse. You should see yourself in, let's say the "terrible twos" of your sweetheart and let's see what you call then "child abuse". Child abuse is allowing a child to do as he pleases until your nerves are so grated that you may even lose control and then, let's say you don't spank them. Then what you do is to continually nag their joy away, or to forcefully push them on a chair for a "time off", or who knows what. Child abuse is to bring up a child while allowing his soul to grow untrained, selfish and horrible, and then reject the monster you created by saying when they are incorregible teens that "you did what you could, now it's God's turn". If we want God to control our life, we must do things God's way. Please, prevent yourself from being offended when you read your Bible by gently removing all verses about the rod. I don't think that you must CONTROL children in an offensive way, but in a loving, happy general environment there are moments when control must be exerted. This one, from my perspective was just one of those moments, not the daily behavior of a father. Excuse me??? Is fisical chastisement what you are calling child abuse? While it is true a rod might serve much better for such a small child, I think you understand it quite wrong. You should go to the street and see real child abuse. You should see yourself in, let’s say the “terrible twos” of your sweetheart and let’s see what you call then “child abuse”.
Child abuse is allowing a child to do as he pleases until your nerves are so grated that you may even lose control and then, let’s say you don’t spank them. Then what you do is to continually nag their joy away, or to forcefully push them on a chair for a “time off”, or who knows what.
Child abuse is to bring up a child while allowing his soul to grow untrained, selfish and horrible, and then reject the monster you created by saying when they are incorregible teens that “you did what you could, now it’s God’s turn”.
If we want God to control our life, we must do things God’s way.

Please, prevent yourself from being offended when you read your Bible by gently removing all verses about the rod.

I don’t think that you must CONTROL children in an offensive way, but in a loving, happy general environment there are moments when control must be exerted. This one, from my perspective was just one of those moments, not the daily behavior of a father.

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