From the Vietnam War to living in tents, Tom and Kathy have exciting stories to tell!
In this podcast, Tom speaks on his days growing up Catholic, studying with Jehovah Witnesses, working with his children to survive cold winters, and coming to know his Savior. Then Kathy tells her side of the story. Listen and enjoy!
I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. 3 John 4
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What a wonderful testimony! Jesus is so good! <3 Thank you for the No Greater Joy Ministry. It has been such a tremendous blessing.